Comments on: Flawed design in Sony Ericsson’s Satio camera phone

By: TausCusnaponas

TausCusnaponas — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:51:46 +0000

@ martyn james

can you please then post some pictures with flash?
I am considering Satio as my next phone but have some doubts about xenon flash performance.

Thanks!!

By: martyn james

martyn james — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:19:05 +0000

Also the xenon flash is massivly under powered and this is a fact, I can post pictures if needed for examples!

By: martyn james

martyn james — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:17:14 +0000

I agree with this article, my satio takes ok pictures outside in bright light but the moment I try to take a picture indoors the noise is awfull no matter what I do to the settings.
My iphone camera was massively better as an all round camera, also something I would add about the satio is that it really doesn’t like shaky hands which I have.. it comes with OIS but it cant be used while the flash is active and it is also supprisingly sensitive.

I would highly recommend looking else where because given the chance I would trade my satio for a different phone in a heart beat.

By: Samantha

Samantha — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:52:43 +0000

Personally, I have found the picture quality on my Sony Satio excellent. Really pleased with how they print and appear on screen

By: Jonas Lind

Jonas Lind — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:52:14 +0000

Thanks for the links to the photos. They look good but that doesn’t invalidate my concerns. We don’t know the percentage of images that turn out good and how many discarded ones there are with exposure and other problems during a an average photo session. A high end DSLR will nail most shots taken.

I also checked the Exif information for the pictures and most of them are taken with ISO 80, and a few with ISO 100. If you need higher ISO I think that the image quality will deteriorate significantly.

By: TooMuchDosh

TooMuchDosh — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:08:14 +0000

Theory is one thing, practice is another.

Take a look at these pictures taken by the Satio. This is the best camera phone so far.

http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/satio/2009/09/16/more-fresh-samples/

http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/satio/2009/10/10/sample-pictures-some-mixes-pics-from-the-latest-weeks/

I do agree more MPx doesn’t mean better quality but you will find phone manafacturers also use better lens in their higher megapixel camera’s which explains why most 12 or 8 MPx camera phones offer better image quality than 5MPx.

By: Alan Ayling

Alan Ayling — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:34:06 +0000

Words of wisdom in a sea of delusion.

I have felt the same way for years, beginning with Digital Cameras and now with Smartphones. As I told a friend (who didn’t listen) photography is all about light! And to grab more light you have a bigger CCD or a wider aperture lens (or both if its a DSLR).

Actually, I just got a Samsung Pixon12. The first thing I did was reduce the image size to 4MP. I assume that the phone still uses the whole CCD, but that it reduces the saved image size down, in that way I would benefit from the extra resolution of this over-packed CCD. Is that not true, isn’t that how it works? In that case, you do get a benefit from a higher resolution CCD, even if it is the same size.

By: o.o

o.o — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:40:02 +0000

but ofcourse!
how can you expect that a tiny cell phone camera sensor will deliver good results like dslr cameras? O_O
it hardly matches compact cameras!
it wont match dslr anytime soon…
the sensors are small because the lack of room… you cant put a dslr camera sensor in a cell phone because there is absolutly no room!
you are being silly yourself for trying to compare a cameraphone to the dslrs.. wich are the best type of cameras you can find today!
O_O
besides, satio delivers quit good results
here is a sample from satio’s early to mid early prototype:
http://www.gsmarena.com/showpic.php3?sImg=reviewsimg/sony-ericsson-idou/camera/gsmarena_019.jpg

btw can you explain me what a focal length is?
satio has 5.9mm focal length…
is it better than 4.9?
what are the advantages..?
ty

By: Jonas Lind

Jonas Lind — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 08:06:51 +0000

Finding the sensor size of camera phones was very hard. I don’t have more info about other smartphones.

Of course you can get an 8 MP camera phone to take “good” pictures under certain circumstances. But how reliable is the camera phone? Take 200 pictures during four days and se how many of them are “good”. My guess is 40% while a DSLR would deliver maybe 80%. And if you test a camera phone side by side with a compact or DSLR the camera phone loses.

I know that the Satio has a Xenon flash, but a direct flash most often produce washed out bluish pictures. The same picture without a cheap flash would be more natural.

By: Sony Ericsson

Sony Ericsson — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:27:14 +0000

Hmmm… If this is true why does some 8 megapixel phones right now take good photos without noticeable noise? I guess the Satio will have some sort of Software for that… Besides, it’s equipped with a Xenon, right? And if 12 megapixels is so big for night shots, then why not just change the settings in the camera and set the resolution to a lower one? Well, let’s just see until the phone is really out…